The Matrix Fans 2007 forums

[tozy]

On request, from MeX:

Here you can find a transcript of the talk:
http://www.matrixfans.net/symbolism/meanings.php

And, I believe, much of the philosophical conversation is about the Matrix:

Larry says: the Matrix is an exploration of consciousness

...and then they eventually get to the "omega point", the "zero point", the "original face" -> that's where Neo is headed throughout the trilogy,... and that's where he arrives at the end.

For a better understanding:
http://www.uvm.edu/giee/Tom/spirit/docs/IntegralSpirituality.html (not entirely correct in detail (as CaptPostMod may agree... ), but a good overview)
http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/kosmos/excerptG/part1.cfm/

-> after you have read about involution and evolution, go back to Revolutions and watch the tiny intro....

And here, finally, is the other meaning of the Bardo, of the In Between, and if you feel that "reincarnation" or "rebirth" is unacceptable, then this might be easier to accept... not only did the whole involutionary series occur prior to one's birth, one re-enacts the entire series moment to moment. ...This moment to moment phenomenon we call "microgeny" – the micro-genetic involution of the spectrum of consciousness. Each moment, the individual passes through the entire Bardo sequence – ultimate to causal to subtle to mental to gross – and he remembers only to the extent he has evolved. If an individual has evolved to the subtle realm, then he will remember the gross, mental, and subtle aspects of consciousness, but he will not remember the causal and ultimate aspects of this moment's experience: they remain in the emergent unconscious, awaiting emergence via remembrance. Evolution is simply the interception of micro-involution at higher and higher stages: the more evolved a person is, the less involved he is.
Ken Wilber - The Atman Project


Larry Wachowski (Path of Neo):
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"You see at this point in the story Neo stands on the verge of Satori, ready to resolve the paradox of Choice and Choicelessness, of Free Will versus Fate. But that can only be achieved through an act of surrender, which occurs after he has abandoned the perspectival nature of Truth, accepting the Totality of Present Consciousness which ultimately allows an evolutionary transition, transcending the Cartesian dilemma through the emergence of the de-limited spirit, which then provides the world with the choice of a third path, the path of Neo, the path of the peace."
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[th3_p4th]

The audio is here: http://in.integralinstitute.org/talk.aspx?id=205

Moved to Theories (idk why I told you to post it here )

It's a sticky!